Believe it or not, doctors are still human beings, and they like positive feedback they made a difference. The amount of gratitude that gets voiced by patients varies, depending on the medical specialty – and doctors in training would be wise to know how important is to them for patients to adore them.
If adoration is important, then you should go into surgery.
If it doesn’t matter, then pediatrics or psychiatry or ER work is OK.
Still, all doctors want to hear a “thank you”.
Psychiatry has something I suspect is unique. When some psychiatric symptoms clear up, the patient’s reaction is either indifference or discomfort. You would think that if a patient was hearing voices, or believing their house invaded, or with intrusive thoughts about doing something dreadful in public, the removal of these matters would evoke relief, elation – and thanks. This seldom happens. A lifelong malady once eliminated seldom feels a relief; it feels odd and not quite comfortable.
”I guess I am no longer depressed but it feels really weird” is often voiced.
Some other examples – “X” is an elderly man, dragged in by his wife as he has paranoia his wife is not really his wife. This is driving her bats. He gets started on some medication. In the follow up appointment, I notice X is talking about his physical matters, not the ‘this is not my wife’ complaint. I point this out. He states she is his wife. I point out last week he was thinking she was someone else. He acknowledges this but quickly goes back to talking about his aches. There is no ‘What a relief to be rid of that awful symptom! Thanks, doc for helping me out’.
Another example – “Y”, a woman with body image issues, thinks her nose is so big she can’t go out without a low hat; she is considering yet more surgery to remove the ‘elephant size’ nose. After treatment is started, she too starts talking about anything but her nose. ‘How do you feel about your nose these days?” (pause) “Oh it’s OK”. And quickly moves onto something else. If I call her on it, she will acknowledge the discrepancy of last week’s beliefs to this week’s – but that is all. There is no relief: no ‘wow!’; and certainly no ‘Thank you!’.
So shrinks have to get their satisfaction from the job done, rather than from gratitude.
I remember the patient I assisted through 5 years of ups and downs and crisis. He completed his appointments with the summary -
‘You never helped me at all’.


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November 27, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Maddog
Hey Stranger, I’ve thanked every therapist, psychiatrist I’ve ever had. I know that life would be crazy without them and for that I’ll be forever grateful. I’m sorry you don’t hear it more often.
Hope you’ve been well.
November 28, 2007 at 3:20 AM
Lemuel
I cannot help but think of the story in the Christian scriptures of the 10 lepers cleansed, but only one (an “outsider” at that!) returns to give thanks.
I fear it is the nature of the human beast not to be thankful.
November 28, 2007 at 3:59 AM
foxystone
My opinion is that many still see mental disorders as a weakness, something they should be able to handle (I know I felt that way for many years) A physical problem can be attributed to outside circumstances, but something mental is far more personal. Saying ‘thank you’ is probably like admitting that the person was weak, wrong, or deficient.
It is good though to take comfort in helping these people. Imagine what their life would have been without you and your kind there to guide them to a better understanding of themselves.
November 28, 2007 at 5:24 AM
Doug
I thanked my therapists profusely and repeatedly. My individual therapist recommended I go to group therapy, and I resisted for a while until I gave her an ultimatum: “I’ll go to group therapy if you agree to continue to see me on an individual basis. If you want me to stop seeing you, then you shouldn’t be so damn good at what you do.”
No matter how good some of your patients have it, some people prefer to and insist on complaining. It’s not about what’s fixed, it’s about what else is wrong. And they pay you to listen to what is wrong (in their mind, anyway). They don’t see you as a human being. It’s all about them and their ailments, real or imagined.
All of my therapists were in therapy themselves, and I can understand why. I would guess the most oft-repeated advice given to therapists is, “You are doing a wonderful job. Look at how many people you’re helping. Even if they don’t acknowledge it, that’s their problem. You know you’re doing good in the world.”
Btw, your example patients, both here and in prior posts, scare me. People are really fucked up in ways I had never imagined. Perhaps that leads to the second most oft-given advice to therapists: “Just because a few humans are off their rockers doesn’t mean the entire human race is doomed. You’re charged with helping those few who need help the most, so you will naturally see the worst in humanity. And not everyone is curable. The few patients that slip through your fingers are not a reflection on you. There is only so much you can do.”
Urspo – where i was trained it was required to be in therapy – how the hell can a therapist do this sort of work if they don’t know themselves first? I cringe at the ‘next generation’ of therapists who are trained without this due process.
November 28, 2007 at 6:40 AM
BID
I guess you know what it is like to be used then?
On the bright side you get paid for it.
You should have watched House last night. He told a man he was going to live and the man got mad because he had been living as though he only had 3-6 months. He got mad because he was going to live! People are actually like that. Sad but true.
November 28, 2007 at 7:38 AM
Farmer
Roses are red, sky is blue, you’re a better writer than me for sure, lol
November 28, 2007 at 8:53 AM
The Persian
I tried to go to a therapist a couple years ago, but needed a referral from my Doctor. He wrote my a prescription for something and told me to try this first.
I never filled it and never did get to see a therapist. I really would like to have, even now.
I promise you tho, if I do and things help, I will thank the doctor.
November 28, 2007 at 9:15 AM
"Joe"
I hope I have been as thankful to my docs as those others who’ve posted. And, I know that even though we want some things to change, we’re (oddly) more comfortable with the devil we know than with the one we don’t.
Let me say how thankful I am to you for your online sharing and the help you’ve given me through that and in other ways. I’m not your patient, but so appreciate your patience and presence here.
THANK YOU!
November 28, 2007 at 9:28 AM
Cliffie
I think you should take comfort in the fact that you can apparently save people from space pods, as in the first example, and from preoccupations with stupid stuff, as in the nose example.
I have always felt that people don’t want to talk about their psych symptoms after they are gone because A) they have a superstitious fear of bringing them back by talking about them, or B) they expect you to round on them and say, “Why did you ever believe something that stupid in the first place?” or C) they are so low in insight that it wouldn’t cross their tiny little minds to question the change in perspective.
Urspo – good points! I suspect the first explanation is the major one!
November 28, 2007 at 9:39 AM
tigeryogiji
((HUGS))
November 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Diederick
Owww, that must’ve hurt: 5 years!?
Giving such a “summary” after 5 years of attention from you must be proof of some mental problem…
I reckon I’ve never given a doctor a compliment beyond “thank you” which is accompanied with a handshake and in my culture means goodbye. Then again I’ve never been helped by a doctor in a very direct manner, I usually get medicine and that takes away much of the effect the doctor seemed to have.
I know one shrink that moves my world in a positive way, though. You’re doing a great job at getting me interested in you sir.
Yours,
Diederick
November 28, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Mark H
IT DOES seem counter-intuitive to me, yes. In simply seeing life a different way than I was, I was thrilled and grateful. Please keep it in perspective, we learn too much in your sharing.
November 28, 2007 at 4:30 PM
rcwbiologist
That must kind of suck.
November 28, 2007 at 4:52 PM
Michael
It’s not just with their psychological problems. There is something in people that makes them resist seeing that you helped them. They’ll sooner attribute their relief to some other random act, or solely to their own efforts, or to dumb luck than give you the credit they deserve. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a mental problem, a musculo-skeletal problem, an infection, whatever. I know you know this, but it still can be frustrating after years and years and years of dealing with it, I know. It’s normal to feel slighted, though, even if you know what you’ve accomplished (and they may also on some level).
November 28, 2007 at 6:30 PM
merrimerri
People can be so amazing(and not in a good way)
A simple, “thank you”, isn’t hard.
Maybe it’s better to think about the nice ones who DO express gratitude!
((hugs))
November 29, 2007 at 4:32 PM
Kalvin
I think saving someone’s life as a psychiatrist takes far more skill than it does for a surgeon. Helping someone not end their life or make a better one is infinitely more valuable. It’s just that the patient is awake for everything, and well, does have to do some work as well. Maybe it’s the effort that they don’t like. Maybe if you were a hypnotherapist that was somehow magically successful things would be different. Sorry!
December 1, 2007 at 3:56 PM
Maggie
Years ago, maybe twenty, I was in a marriage that was very unhealthy.
My husband told me daily how lucky I was to have him, as no one else would have such an ugly wife. I believed him because after years of being told this, it has to be true.
It got to a point though, that my G.P. referred me to a physchiarst. She was an angel on earth. After a few months of therapy, she started giving me my confidence back. I had a three year old daughter and what good would I be to her, feeling the way I did? This was very important to me!!
She gave me the strength to leave him and be a better mother to my child.
My last appointment with her, was me sitting across from her in her office, with nothing to say. She did though!! She said,”if you ever need me again, you know where I am”.
I was “cured”, per say!!
I thanked her, gave her a hug and said goodbye. Never a day goes by that I don’t think of her and thank her.
It could be the same with you Spo. Unspoken thanks!!
January 19, 2008 at 5:15 AM
Rhinoplasty
I had a real big nose and slightly narrow at it’s tip. One of my friend george suggested me rhinoplasty, and I wonder how good is it to skip. getting under knife