Wednesday at the clinic is ‘pharm rep luncheon day’. This consists of one or two pharmaceutical representatives coming in to talk about their product(s). This is sometimes with a lecturer, but always with lunch.
Overall I don’t find pharm reps useful or necessary. I certainly don’t rely on them for education. Pharm reps are a bit like used car salesmen, either trying to sell me something I already have or don’t want.
I traditionally don’t work with samples. There was nowhere to store them; and I was the only one at clinic. And I don’t have time to schmooze with reps (even the pretty ones; most pharm reps are handsome fellows. Coincidence? ).
With the arrival of the other doctor last year, this changed. He brought with him Rx samples and pharm reps. Prior, I haven’t seen their ilk in over five years.
Being a pharm rep seems a hard job. Like airline personnel, they smile a lot and are upbeat and patient. And like flight attendants they have to deal with irascible demanding people viz. doctors, who can be childish and nasty (true!).
I admit, it is nice to have a ‘real lunch’ once a week and have some pleasant conversation about pharmacology.
Alas, pharm reps have to ‘stick with the protocol’ and can not answer the questions I really want to ask:
- How do I use this product off-label?
- What negative studies do you have in the back you won’t reveal?
- Will you put out if I use your product? ***
I also admit I like to bear-bait them a bit, putting questions I know they can’t answer readily or easily. Fun to see’em squirm a bit.
Many people are wary if downright hostile about doctors in cahoots with pharm reps. Patients don’t want me be some ‘hired gun’, bribed to give out Summer Rain, yet they are often the first to complain when I have no samples to give them. You can’t have it both ways.
Someone, who worked in banking, tells me stories of lavish wining and dining and entertaining by their reps and salesmen; why should it be any different for Medicine? I think there is a difference (which is one reason I did not associate with reps). I think my decision making of treatment and medications are not influenced by whom I last saw for lunch.
I skip over the ‘dinner invitations’ not so much out of virtue, as I am too busy to sit still for an hour (despite the free eats) to hear about a Rx of which I already use or know.
*** For the record, I have NEVER propositioned a pharm rep, not even that really handsome one who represented a (now generic) antidepressant. Seeing him always got me out of  a depressed mood.Â

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January 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Peter
Maybe some of those reps could use a good shrink too once in a while. You could then prescribe their competitors med.
[Or do you think they use their free samples for that]
January 18, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Will
Alas, in theater the lighting and theatrical supply houses don’t really come around and try to sell you. There will be commercial booths at the big theater conferences but if you want dinner you have to be registered and you pay.
The payoff was when you traveled to the lighting supply or theatrical supply houses and went into the stock room or the loading dock to pick up your stuff — that’s where the hunky/cute boys were.
January 18, 2012 at 3:51 PM
domanidave
If you are already independently satisfied of the efficacy of a certain medication, what’s the harm of samples? What about informing the patient that you’d prescribe this or that compound even if Pfizer, or whoever, hadn’t handed it off to you to give away free? And I am, truly, just asking.
January 18, 2012 at 4:38 PM
Laurent
Oh I was hoping to hear about some salacious story about you and the gorgeous Pharm rep. I mean lavish lunch or dinner and you pass on a happy pill to some nasty client. I know not ethical but then is life ethical?
One of those philosophical questions. I’m in an immoral business, meaning a job outside of morality. But that is another story.
January 18, 2012 at 5:16 PM
Will J
We used to have “lunch and learns” in various architecture offices that I worked in. There was always a difference between the companies or trade groups that were trying to make a sale and those who really knew their product (including appropriate use, installation and maintenance, the marketplace – designer, owners, users, contractors etc). The sales oriented ones had ‘the look.’ These were the young reps who would move on and you wouldn’t see in a few years. The more substantial content tended to be presented by middle-aged people who had stayed in an industry and advanced to a trade group; they knew their stuff (and would honestly tell you that they didn’t have an answer and would get back to you – and they did). The most memorable one that I went to was over 20 years ago for sealants. The guy was as dry as toast in the desert, but he knew his stuff and had a great matrix that could help you figure out exactly the right product for the use and conditions. Unfortunately, I lost his business card (but I still have that matrix).
January 18, 2012 at 5:23 PM
Aunt Barb
you forgot to add: they make a ton of money hawking their wares!!
January 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Erik Rubright
I’d figured reps would be a thing of the past with all the danged television commercials hawking all the latest medicines that you should take and why and what to ask your doctor about….
January 19, 2012 at 7:39 AM
Blobby
We had a pharm rep who’d come around once a week for some Parkinson’s med. I honestly thought of stalking him, he was so attractive.
ahhhh…the days before FB and LinkedIn. He dodged a bullet.
January 19, 2012 at 8:27 AM
Raybob
I *have* been propositioned by a pharm rep. My massage therapy business was inside a doctor’s office at one time, and a rep made an appointment for massage one day. Ended up with him literally chasing me around the massage table, naked, wanting a kiss. I encouraged him to find his jollies elsewhere.
Wow. I couldn’t believe he would do this in the very office of a doc whom he was pushing drugs to … talk about defecating where you eat!
January 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Urspo
Never a good idea, that!
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January 19, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Ron
You may have NEVER PROPOSITIONED a pharm rep but remember what former (failed) president Jimmy Carter said “If you lust in your heart it is THE SAME as actually doing it.” Pure thoughts only Dr Spo, pure thoughts.
January 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM
johnmichael42003
Many people I have talked to, are annoyed by the reps showing up at inconvenient times…especially during their “down” times. However, some one has to do it. And sometimes, they do have new innovative products.