I ask all new patients do they have a support network, such as family members, friends, co-workers, and neighbors they can talk to. I press further: do they have any they can actually confide with. Sometimes with the men-folk (who are less apt than women to have a close same-sex friend) “Do you have someone you could call in the night when in trouble?” That answer is often ‘no”. Often I hear patients aren’t so depressed and they are lonely; if they had a few friends their depression would be so much better. They don’t need Prozac, they need a pal. They nearly always agree with this hypothesis but are quick to ask ‘so how do I do make such a friend?” Good question. Even before covid19 we were dealing with a ‘friend problem’. There is a lot of data that supports friends do us and society a lot of good. Unfortunately, many modern matters impede us to keep old friends, and worse, make new ones. Covid19 makes this challenge even more ponderous than it already is, worse luck. Fortunately for us, making friends isn’t impossible nor does it require special skills. It is like an old hobby you haven’t done in a long while; after you pick it back up and practice, it gets easier.
With that said, it ain’t easy, especially with the covid19 factor.
First of all you have to talk to people. The first conversation is felt by many to be the hardest. We fear saying hello to our prodromal friends A.K.A strangers due to two fears: there is the fear of being seen as a threat and the fear of being rejected. Most of us have been trained not to talk to strangers and see them as objects of suspicion. Studies show this is not true: strangers like being talked to. When asked after a chat “did you like that stranger saying hi and talking to you?” the answer is nearly 100% yes. People are generally glad at being addressed.
We often misinterpret a nonresponse or a hesitation to our greetings/openers as rejection, when in fact most of the time the recipient is merely momentarily confused, not knowing what to do, so they keep mum. When interacting with a prodromal friend, ask something about them, using a concrete opener the future friend will hear unambiguously. “Oh what a great hat/shoes/dog/purse you’ve got there. I’ve been searching for something like it. Where did you get it? At a gathering, you talk about the game/the music. A party always has the host as a common denominator: “So how do you know so-and-so?” These types of opening lines are clear and deemed safe. If someone truly doesn’t want to talk to you, they will give a short nondescript reply and then you move on.
The first challenge of making friends is you have to be around people. These days this is no easy task. I often recommend going to activity-based get-togethers like church or a class (in-person types) or a walking group. What these have in common is you are going to something that holds your interest and the others there are similarly inclined. Even if you end up makin no friends, you haven’t wasted your time; you’ve done something enjoyable – and you were around people, which is beneficial in itself.
The second challenge to making friends is this takes time and effort. It is like learning to play an instrument; it needs regular practice. My nephew Posthumous Thomas told me about a friend he made last month by being on a swing next to another boy. The boy said to my nephew “Do you want to be my friend?” PT replied yes, and off they went. Were is that easy for us! I think I read it takes over a dozen or more interactions before adult acquaintances realize they’ve become friends.
The third challenge: friendships have to be regularly nurtured. This is not a passive endeavor; you will have to work at this. What I mean by work is being regularly in touch with friends via calls, texts, and better yet is actual get-togethers.
Here is another factor, not often talked about, but I think important. In many friendships there is a “Frog and Toad” dynamic. “Frog’ is the one in the relationship who is the instigator for getting together, while “Toad” is the friend who is passive at initiating reach-outs. I hear complaints from the “Frogs” that they are doing all the work: “I’m the one making all the effort!” they remonstrate, ‘I do all the calling and inviting Toad out!”. I point out whenever they do reach out, “Toad” is always glad to hear from them, and doesn’t say no. If “Toad” didn’t value the relationship, he would decline. Toad is glad to be with you, and when together the relationship is more balanced compared to who started it. For better or worse, some folks are ‘Frogs’ and some are ‘Toads’. Learn which one you are and be OK with it. Many a nice friendship is spoiled when Frog and Toad expect the other to be more like them.*
Don’t think I have mastered these matters. I must consciously strive to maintain my friends and work to to make new ones. It is easier to declare it all ‘too much’ and succumb to staying home staring at my iPhone.
Having a friend – or making a new one – can be a lot of work that often requires some courage but it is well worth it.
Are you more Frog or Toad?
*Someone and I are different types: I am a Frog and Someone is a Toad. In our network of acquaintances, he finds it irksome we are the ones ‘always doing the investigating’. I have less issue with this. I realized early if I waited, Toad-like, for friends to call, I would get very few invites to anything. Yes, it would be nice if others reciprocated more often than they do, but I know they don’t decline when we call them, nor to they disvalue our friendship.
46 comments
November 23, 2021 at 3:02 AM
Paul Brownsey
This post meshed with thoughts I’ve been immersed in over the past couple of days. On Sunday we had a former neighbour from the other side of the city to lunch. Twice she remarked how lovely it was to be able to talk to someone. But her non-stop talk was almost impossible to follow: full of stories she started but didn’t finish, jumping from one line of thought to another, from mention of one person to mention of another, as though they were the same, confused and confusing. I’m pretty sure her isolation has a lot to do with it: it’s as if she’s locked inside her own head and what other people say to her, or need to get from her to understand her, just doesn’t register. Alas, she’s quarrelsome as well as isolated, and a lot of her talk seemed to be about rows she’s had, especially with doctors. But she seems to have objections to the sorts of ways you suggest for making friends…
Different point: your remark about someone you could phone in the night rang a bell. I used (50 years ago) to listen a lot to Roberta Flack’s I Am The Girl, which contains a line about how she’s the girl he will phone up at 3 a.m. with his problems. I used to be in awe of a connection deep and settled enough to allow that. I think there are now people in my life whom I could phone at 3 a.m.–but, paradoxically, I suspect that, if you know you could phone them at 3 a.m., it would probably fortify you to get by until you could phone them at a more civilised hour.
Different point: I wonder whether getting older doesn’t in one respect, at least, increase your chances of making connections. Once people are retired and don’t have the daily interactions with work colleagues, there’s space to contact people you used to know whom you didn’t have much time to keep up with during your working life. I’m about to have lunch with a guy I knew slightly around the gay scene over 45 years ago. We’ve been in contact only a couple of times over the years (e.g. at a funeral). But now he’s retired and I’m retired: time, perhaps, for conversations we never had all those years ago…
November 23, 2021 at 7:10 AM
Urspo
Yes I think seniors have an advantage from not working and (to some extend) being in ‘silver’ groups and senior-plus living.
I am fascinated by “U” friends. These are the types who were close in our youth, but teens-40s or so not in touch, only to reconnect and become friends again. I have a few via FB, some who wouldn’t give me the time of day when we were young, now apparently wanting my attention and friendship. Curious.
November 23, 2021 at 5:00 AM
David Godfrey
The frog or the toad, can I be a little of both? I make some efforts, but probably not enough. The problem is too many toads, sitting, waiting for the other person to call. Going back to my office a couple of days a week, and there are only a handful of people going into the office, I have really noticed who is yearning for social contact and who isn’t. I have had some wonderful conversations with a couple of people, one is really looking for ANY opportunity to talk with ANYONE.
November 23, 2021 at 7:13 AM
Urspo
It is hoped we are a hybrid of Frog and Toad. Many alas are not, so work with what is available. If you have to be more Frog-like in a relationship so be it.
November 23, 2021 at 5:25 AM
DwightW.
I really have Two friends to call locally , and every other person in my neighborhood where I have lived for 30 years. If my issue were large I would call 911. I have many gay and Straight Friends in this world. I do not feel the need to have constant companionship. I can see where this would become an issue if I choose to continue to live alone should that happen so far from family members. I honestly need a friend with benefits more than a Friend. But I think your premise and guidance is always spot on. My confidante is a Text friend in Kentucky but she and I are soulmates and she has made it clear if her husband dies , she is adopting me. She is my age and we were Classmates in Dental School. She has made a huge fortune and offered ear and resources should the time ever come.
November 23, 2021 at 7:13 AM
Urspo
I am glad to read you have some chums to call and be with. Good for you!
November 23, 2021 at 5:35 AM
Todd Gunther
I was definitely the Toad in my marriage. Warrior Queen was the frog and a very outgoing frog at that!
BTW: have a Happy Thanksgiving.
November 23, 2021 at 7:15 AM
Urspo
Happy thanksgiving to you too deario!
WQ (now that you mention it) was quite “Frog” for which I am grateful, not only for all she did but bringing you along Mr. Toad/Todd.
November 23, 2021 at 6:20 AM
wickedhamster
Talk to… people???? Ewwwwwww!!!
November 23, 2021 at 7:15 AM
Urspo
They’ve done studies; it’s fun. Try it sometime.
November 23, 2021 at 7:00 AM
Debra She Who Seeks
My preference is to be a Toad but I have learned to be more of a Frog as the years roll on. My Rare One is the Ultimate Frog. She keeps in touch with EVERYONE and (except for our covid era) is always creating parties and social occasions for our entire social group to get together. I have benefitted a lot from her Frogginess.
November 23, 2021 at 7:16 AM
Urspo
Toad-types benefit greatly when hitched to a Frog-type.
I hope my Toad (Someone) appreciates our network which is like your Rare One, almost all my doing.
November 23, 2021 at 7:38 AM
Parnassus
Why are toads considered more passive than frogs? The actual ones I have seen in nature seem about the same. And why do we always hear that about calling friends in the middle of the night when upset? Except for true emergencies (illness, the house burning down), who would ever do that?
–Jim
November 23, 2021 at 7:54 AM
Urspo
In the children’s book series “Frog and Toad” Frog is the gentle assured one, while Toad is the anxious passive one. That’s where I got today’s metaphor.
The call in the night is more figurative, a metaphor perhaps, do you have a friend who will be there for anything, anytime? It is hoped we all have at least one who serves this purpose. I’ve been told when Mother went unexpectedly into labor in the night with Brother #3, Father called the next door neighbor to come over to watch us sleeping kids while he took her to hospital. That sort of thing.
November 23, 2021 at 7:43 AM
Robzilla, Native Of Slam Diego
In the past, I was the toad. Since the pandemic started, I push myself to be the frog.
I look forward to working in the office next week. I plan on making at least one new friend there so I have a larger support network for whatever comes my way in the future.
November 23, 2021 at 7:55 AM
Urspo
I so hope your new work office not only is rewarding and meaningful for work but allows you to meet new people and explore new relationships.
November 23, 2021 at 7:52 AM
Debbie W.
As a retired librarian, Frog and Toad books are among my favorites, and I love how you use their friendship as an example of the roles we play in our own friendships/relationships. In addition, my spouse and I are planning a move in the coming year, from a state where we have lived our entire lives (and have many friends), to a state 350+ miles away, where we know no one. I will be saving your post, so I can practice the art of making new friends. Thanks for a post that is both helpful and smile/inducing, and I wish you, Someone, and Harper a peaceful and happy Thanksgiving. 😊
November 23, 2021 at 7:56 AM
Urspo
What an adventure you two are having! I hope the new pond where you two hop is full up with local Frogs who will come over to greet you and bring you into their fold.
November 23, 2021 at 3:33 PM
Debbie W.
Thanks so much for this, and for all of your insightful posts. I always find myself looking forward to seeing what you are going to write about next!
November 23, 2021 at 8:33 AM
Brian Dean Powers
I can think of numerous times in recent years when I have said hello to someone, face to face, and the other person looked at me like I was a freak, then walked away saying nothing. It is hard for me to imagine I am not worth a simple hello to some people. I am far more reluctant to approach others than I used to be.
November 23, 2021 at 9:02 AM
Urspo
That makes sense of course, sad to say.
I have to remind myself when I have similar rejections I am not given the reasons ‘what happened’. I won’t assume I am no good, and I try not to assume they are jerks. I keep trying though, as occasionally this pays off.
November 23, 2021 at 8:39 AM
Anne
I have given a great deal of thought to this topic. I have always been Frog, Frog, Frog. But it does get weary. I am in my 70s and have simply pulled back from a lot of this. I know you feel that people are who they are, but it also feels somewhat like emotional laziness to me when you allow others to do all the work. I recently found a high school friend on Facebook and we exchanged several emails. Well, she actually wrote about 1 and 1/2 emails. Then she told me she didn’t have time to write emails but she would love to continue to get them from me. WTF?
So, I’m pretty burned out and I mostly just hang with my husband who is my best friend. This works for me.
November 23, 2021 at 9:04 AM
Urspo
You got that right. Being a Frog all the time is draining. It is hoped in a relationship it is more equal. Too much Frog is tiresome. 🙂
November 23, 2021 at 9:11 AM
Lori Hawkins
Sweet story from your nephew. I remember when it was that easy to make new friends. Kids really do have it all figured out. I wonder at what age that starts to fade.
November 23, 2021 at 9:54 AM
Urspo
Kids (I suppose) don’t immediately become wary of hidden agendas but take the offer at face value.
When I interact with others, say at social hour at the resort a few weeks ago, I try not to be a shrink but a child saying hello to meet others. I hope this is ‘picked up’ as it were as taken at face value – at least long enough to make a connection to see where it goes.
November 23, 2021 at 9:37 AM
Sam
It’s the confiding part that I think gets more challenging. Activity friends are a good start because common interests might be a place to ground, but dang it’s hard as we get older.
November 23, 2021 at 9:55 AM
Urspo
Activity-based friendships are good. I think the men-folk to this more than women. “Johnny’ is the friend with whom I play basketball but would not think of asking out to dinner, that sort of thing.
November 23, 2021 at 9:54 AM
jefferyrn
Thank you for being a friend. It does take work to maintain a friendship. My sister in law complains how much work her friends are to keep and whether they are worth the effort. I say they definitely are worth it for her own mental health if nothing else.
November 23, 2021 at 9:56 AM
Urspo
I thank you for being my friend; may it grow.
If the friends are folks you like, it is worth the effort to reach out etc.
November 23, 2021 at 12:21 PM
Old Lurker
Why would people need friends when they have spouses? Foisting all your emotional labor onto a spouse means you don’t have to worry until your spouse dies and you realize you are utterly unmoored.
Also why would anybody need friends when they have books and blogs and podcasts?
November 23, 2021 at 3:41 PM
Urspo
I am a rock; I am an island?
November 23, 2021 at 4:27 PM
Anne
Thank you Simon. Or was that Garfunkel? 😀
November 23, 2021 at 3:09 PM
Gigi Rambles
As you may have guessed, I am the Toad (I loathe both toads and frogs – so this analogy is giving me the shivers). My husband is the Frog. I agree that having close friends is a benefit – and I would be bereft without them – those IRL and my online pals.
November 23, 2021 at 3:42 PM
Urspo
Apologies about using amphibians in my metaphor.
As I typed this, I saw the books in the office at eye level and it seemed to say ‘use me”
November 23, 2021 at 4:39 PM
Steven
I guess I am more the frog and husband is the toad. I want to be with friends more often than he does. He always says, “We have each other.” But we need outlets which I think will really materialize once we are under one roof next summer.
November 23, 2021 at 7:58 PM
Urspo
‘each other’ in my opinion is not enough. In every relationship there will be someone who wants more friends than the other. It is hoped that one can have some chums without that being seen as a source of anxiety.
November 23, 2021 at 6:57 PM
Richard Portman
Talk to your neighbors. Say hello. All of my neighbors are afraid of frogs and toads. Most of them haven’t even seen these creatures and they are afraid they will give you warts.
November 23, 2021 at 7:58 PM
Urspo
I doubt your neighbors will give you warts, but be prudent and use protection.
November 23, 2021 at 7:12 PM
Linda Practical Parsimony
I am definitely the Frog. Tommy tries to be a frog, but he often offends people!
November 23, 2021 at 7:59 PM
Urspo
At least he is trying; good for him for doing so.
November 24, 2021 at 9:59 AM
Linda Practical Parsimony
But, I cringe. When I tell him not to say that, he says they did not tell they were insulted. It is hopeless.
November 23, 2021 at 9:12 PM
Pat
Friends. It was a word that popped out a few times in your posts from Palm Springs. And it was nice to hear. You have mentioned that it was/is difficult to cultivate friends locally so it was wonderful to hear that you have a network to call upon. Not being local makes it inconvenient for sometimes needed favors but the long-term friendships are priceless. After six years in my golden years locale, I have met and cultivated many great people. Many have the time and inclination to lend a hand, or give a ride etc. They can be good company but I don’t consider them real friends. Happy to discuss the intimate details of my irrigation system, or air conditioning unit, but they are not like my lifelong friends in different time zones and far flung cities. They I can, do and have called upon in times of need. So, I consider it the best of both worlds my “friendly folk” here allow me to both give and receive companionship and assistance. They allow for stimulating conversations, amusing social occasions and shared jumper cables but for my long-term friends with their institutional knowledge of me allow me to unburden when needed and vice versa.
November 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM
Urspo
Yours is a fortunate situation.
My friends are nearly 100% toad-types viz. very happy to hear from me but I do the reach out. I do not mind, for these folks I like and want in my life.
November 23, 2021 at 9:30 PM
rjjs8878
I think I’m both frog and toad depending on the situation and my comfort level.
November 24, 2021 at 6:49 AM
Urspo
Good for you! That is the best balance to be.
November 26, 2021 at 10:55 AM
Bohemian
Children are very Pure about initiating Friendship, Do you want to be my Friend? isn’t something you’d ever hear an Adult even say out loud. I am sure most people have an abundance of Casual Tie relationships with other people, the Ride Or Die Friendships are not only rare, but take time and a History to nurture to that level of Close Ties and the Inner Circle. Sometimes you only think you ‘know’ people, I’ve been astounded in these turbulent times of the people I’ve ‘known’ for Decades that aligned with things I found to be abhorrent… they thought me to be okay with that dark underbelly, I was not, it just made me reassess who they really were at their very core and all facades had clearly fallen away. I found that quite disheartening, Thankfully, not a vast majority of people succumbed to some of the really crazy stuff going on during Pandemic and Crazy Politics, but it was interesting and revealing who did, I ain’t gonna Lie.