Raven (the dear!) sent this photograph the other day and I was instantly attracted to it. Not because of the men (although they are a handsome lot)* but something else, something my psyche resonated with before consciousness could conclude the wherefore. I started analyzing the attraction and soon connected the dots: the portrait conveys the archetype of The Five Friends. It goes by a few names, such as ‘The Five Man Band” or ‘The Team”. Each member of the group carries a certain characteristic. None would do well on their own, but together they compliment and balance each other to create a working entity. It illustrates Psyche with its Ego trying to make sense of the complexes to run a good show.
The Leader. In every group no matter how egalitarian it tries to be one rises to the rank of ‘head honcho’. Our ape genes demand it. He – or she – is Ego of the group; he is the coordinator and decision-maker. He often referees the ructions that arise among the group. Sometimes one of the others in the group tries to become The Leader or serves temporarily as The Leader, but in a good group The Leader stays and grows in abilities.
In the photo I imagine The Leader is the fellow second from the left, calm and slightly ahead of the others. He’s wearing some sort of mitts to imply his difference in rank, and that he does the dirty work.
The Lancer. This fellow serves as the antagonist or the foil to The Leader. He’s abrasive, argumentative, and often a pain in the drain to The Leader. He’s The Leader’s Shadow-side. The Lancer keeps The Leader on his/her toes, and makes sure the boss doesn’t do stupid things. They often fight and in several stories The Lancer often takes off in disgust or he/she tries to become The Leader. Usually by the end of the tale The Lancer returns, they reconcile, and both are the better for it.
In the photo I imagine The Lancer on The Leader’s left. The middle fellow looks a bit haughty and less formal looking in his stance. Right after the photo is taken he probably does some sort of outrage.
The Heart. Sometimes called The Soul, this is the one who carries the group’s values, the morals, and the ideals. If there is a point to the group, he/she points out justice and ascertains they do the right thing. Few fight with The Heart as they know he’s right.
In the photo I imagine The Heart is the fellow on the far right. He’s a bit off from the others, which gives him the perspective how the group is behaving.
The Big Guy. Every group needs muscle, some brute strength, to kick-butt in a fight. He’s not bright or thoughtful but he’s loyal and listens to the others knowing he’s not the brains of the bunch to lead or plan. The others poke fun at his lack of finesse but they need his Warrior energy. In adventure stories he’s often the one that gets hurts or killed which brings out the love the others have for the big lummox.
In the photo I imagine the capless chappie on the far left must be The Big Buy, based on his height and broad chest out.
The Smart One. He’s not strong nor big and he knows it. He’s not good in a fight. In Dungeons and Dragons he’s the mage in the back making magic while the others are in front fighting. He’s the brains of the group, the one who thinks and tells the others what’s going on. He devises the plan. While The Leader and The Foil tend to butt heads, The Smart One’s antagonist is The Big Guy, who often loathes The Smart One for his puniness. The Big One likes to play dirty tricks on the poor sod. However they make a staid couple knowing the other has what he lacks.
In the photo I imagine the shorter dude fourth from the left must be The Smart One. The Lancer and Leader keep him apart from The Big Guy lest there are ructions.
Next time you watch a movie and there are five people see if you can find these archetypes in the characters.
In STAR WARS The Smart One is played by the two droids.
Post-script: Does The Five Friends archetype resonate in The Board of Directors Here at Spo-reflections? Alas no. My blog’s psyche is rawhter lop-sided. First of all there are eight of them nor five. Second, they all jockey to be The Big Guy and/or The Foil and there is no Heart, worse luck. This makes me by default The Smart One although no one listens to me. Stirges.
*School teachers, perhaps.
40 comments
January 13, 2023 at 2:32 AM
Robert
I admire your perception.
January 13, 2023 at 6:46 AM
Urspo
Thank you.
Perception is something we all have and can utilize when we stay curious.
January 13, 2023 at 4:10 AM
Sam
I’ll be watching movies in a new light now. Funny to think about this in my life – not haha funny, but interesting.
January 13, 2023 at 6:47 AM
Urspo
It’s interesting (for me anyway) to see a group of 3-5 and find out what role(s) the members
Someone jokes in a group of three there is the smart one, the funny one, and then there is the ‘ho’.
January 13, 2023 at 4:34 AM
Old Lurker
What about the Clown? The Layabout? (When I am in teams I tend to assume that role.) I like your archetypal characterization but it seems to be missing a few members.
January 13, 2023 at 6:49 AM
Urspo
You are correct there is no lack of archetypes. In a balanced psyche there are lots and each plays a part. However, in a group of 3-5, the five in today’s essay seem to rise to the occasion; they make for a functioning group. If the group wasn’t there, other archetypes would take precedent.
January 13, 2023 at 5:29 AM
RuralBeard
I suspect in many gatherings of more than one, a similar correlation would be made, likewise I suspect one would need more than two to carry on the analogy of group roles. Failing a quorum, perhaps one person can or could take on multiple roles! Imagine the to, and fro’ing of the egos!
January 13, 2023 at 6:51 AM
Urspo
I often play a little game with myself when I am around groups, say at happy hour at a resort, I will watch this or that group to see ‘who is what’ in the situation. Often The Leader is apparent and I go from there. Often I find The Heart the most desirable to talk to.
January 13, 2023 at 5:42 AM
Mistress Borghese
What an excellent post and loved the photo too. Now you have me wondering which one in the group of five I am? I feel as though a have qualities of a couple of the different types.
Of course, these guys could have just been gang bang buddies.
January 13, 2023 at 6:53 AM
Urspo
I am always pleased as Punch to hear from you!
I too wonder ‘what is my role’ when I am in a group. I am seldom Leader, never The Big Guy (worse luck!) but often the Heart or the Smart One. On occasion I am The Lancer esp. if the determined Leader needs his nose tweaked.
January 13, 2023 at 6:17 AM
Debra She Who Seeks
One of the reasons I love superhero movies so much is because they are essentially modern American mythology. As such, these ancient archetypal tropes are present in spades. I had fun slotting the various Avengers into these roles, but sometimes those roles shift within the group.
Also, “school teachers,” seriously? Clearly these men are sailors and workers on some kind of merchant marine vessel. Helloooooooooo sailor!
January 13, 2023 at 6:56 AM
Urspo
You are spot on that Superhero groups reflect these archetypes. Archetypes are stencil outlines each generation fills in what they need.
On the other hand you are dead wrong about sailors. They are obviously into education. Perhaps not school teachers but professors. They make up a department of economics or classical studies at some small private school like Albion or OSU.
January 13, 2023 at 6:27 AM
David Godfrey
I was just writing about group dynamics and the self selected spokesperson for the family.
January 13, 2023 at 6:56 AM
Urspo
Anything similar to my scribbling?
January 14, 2023 at 5:57 AM
David Godfrey
How when a family go to talk with a professional, one will speak for the group, and may drown out the real feelings of others in the group.
January 13, 2023 at 6:54 AM
BadNoteB
Interesting and fun post that prompted a mental review of the best and worst management teams I’ve either been part of or had opportunity to observe as a consultant.
It’s not surprising that many readers personally identify with characteristics of more than one archetype. The best managed, most successful and profitable company I worked for was fortunate to encompass all five archetypes with only three members of the executive management team. The presence and modulation of the dynamic(s) is what seems to have mattered when multiple hats could be worn.
Moving down the scale toward the management disasters (and decreasing success/profitability), the weakness or absence of one or more archetype dynamic was easy to identify in every deficient organization. And without exception, the worse the operation the more lacking they tended to be.
I also suspect you are dead on with intuitive assignment of roles to individuals in the photo.
January 13, 2023 at 6:59 AM
Urspo
Your comment was fun reading; thank you for doing so.
I good group – or person – will try to channel all these types to be a whole and resilient person. All the same, it seems a group makes the members become more ‘specialized’. I daresay it is our primal need for hierarchy and knowing who is who in the pecking order.
January 13, 2023 at 7:34 AM
spwilcen
This an excellent read this morning!
January 13, 2023 at 7:49 AM
Urspo
Groovy! I am glad you liked it!
January 13, 2023 at 10:56 AM
spwilcen
Once I figger if I’m legitimately one of the five, I’ll go in search of four others. Haven’t enjoyed this kind of brotherhood since the service and time as a minion in service to John Law’s long arm.
January 13, 2023 at 8:52 AM
jenn
The characters on “Friends”? The characters of “Winnie the Pooh” ? (I’ve heard those being analyzed in various ways). I enjoyed this post! -Jenn
January 13, 2023 at 12:58 PM
Urspo
Yes. Get a group together in a story/TV/movie etc. and the characters become presentations for certain personalities. We are more ‘balanced’ until we become part of a group, then consciously or unconsciously dynamics and relationship develop that enhance certain archetypes.
I am one way and another way depending on which group I am in.
January 13, 2023 at 9:32 AM
Robzilla
Han is most definitely the lancer.
Now I’m going to think about this post while I watch anime during my lunch later today.
January 13, 2023 at 12:59 PM
Urspo
I can’t help but imagine The Five Friends archetype is often in Anime; I suspect they have heaps.
January 13, 2023 at 10:47 AM
DwightW.
Very nice writing !
January 13, 2023 at 12:59 PM
Urspo
Thank you!
It was fun writing!
January 13, 2023 at 1:24 PM
Paul Brownsey
I don’t suppose you read Enid Blyton’s The Famous Five when you were a kid possibly Blyton didn’t travel well from the UK to the US), else I’d ask you to saw who was whom among Julian, Dick, Ann, George, and Timmy. (Timmy was a dog, btw; George was really Georgina but preferred to go by the boys’ name.)
January 13, 2023 at 2:00 PM
Urspo
No I haven’t. I will have a look-see this Saturday.
Thank you.
January 13, 2023 at 1:30 PM
Paul Brownsey
There’s an account of Blyton’s Famous Five characters here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Famous_Five
January 13, 2023 at 2:00 PM
Urspo
Bravo !
January 13, 2023 at 4:19 PM
Blobby
This is giving me pause – and anxiety – of the group of five who have been friends for decades and still get together, via zoom, every Sunday for drinks and laughs.
January 14, 2023 at 1:43 PM
Urspo
Next time you do so, play a little game with yourself. See if these five elements are predominate in who – if they are there at all. The five come out more when there is a task at hand, less so when people are having a chinwag.
January 13, 2023 at 6:22 PM
Pipistrello
I went straight to the Famous Five as well! I’d never even noticed the five man band thing before.
January 14, 2023 at 1:43 PM
Urspo
It goes by a lot names. 🙂
January 14, 2023 at 6:06 AM
Lori Hawkins
Very interesting to think about. Most of my groups are three and I can definitely see this pattern in my groups.
January 14, 2023 at 1:44 PM
Urspo
A friend of mine jokes in a group of three there is the ‘smart one’ and the ‘funny one’ and then there is the … well let’s rename the third as the ‘liberated one”
January 14, 2023 at 7:49 PM
Frogdancer Jones
I enjoyed this post, flicking back up to check the photo after each description. 🙂
January 15, 2023 at 6:41 AM
Urspo
Thank you.
I enjoyed writing it.
The Muses were inspirational which is more likely when archetypes are about.
January 15, 2023 at 1:04 AM
Richard
I continue to resist the Archetypes. For sure, i probably could be forced into several of them. I resist. Sometimes they are useful, but for the most part they are an imposition.
January 15, 2023 at 6:42 AM
Urspo
Poor fellow. They find a way to be recognized. When they aren’t they put shenanigans often very bad ones.